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HOn3 General Discussion Forum / Re: Thankful
« on: November 25, 2011, 09:19:15 PM »
Late Happy Narrow Gauge Thanksgiving

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My second brass engine was a PFM United K-27 that I purchased in 1964...cost $45. My first one was a Balboa C-21 for $35. Traded both for a PFM K-28 in 1971.

Jerry Day

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Prototype Information / Re: K-28 #474
« on: November 10, 2011, 11:20:36 AM »
474 had a tool box on the pilot.

Jerry Day

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Prototype Information / Re: K-28 #474
« on: October 25, 2011, 11:12:05 PM »
(You wouldn't happen to have any information on whether 474 had a toolbox in the tender? This model has an inward sloping toolbox next to the doghouse. )
I have about 25 photos of 474, but none show the tool box. Only 3 of the 25 are taken from the rear and the photographer was riding in the caboose of a 70 car train with 474 in the lead and 456 mid-train. The lead engine is too far away to see any detail.

Photographers of those days were not thinking of modeling when taking their photos. They usually had a limited amount of film and were mostly shooting action photos or roster shots of engines in the yards from the front.

I plan to have 474 in HOn3 when and if Blackstone does a model. I already have 456, so have half that train...now I just need about 55 more high side gons and 10 stock cars.

Jerry Day


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Prototype Information / Re: K-28 #474
« on: October 25, 2011, 07:07:39 PM »
2. Doghouse, some photos show royal gorge/ moffat with doghouse, some without. (As an aside, did any K-28s used on the 3rd division have a doghouse while in royal gorge/moffat paint other than 474?)


D&RGW 470 brakeman's cabin (dog house) applied January 1, 1941
D&RGW 471 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1940
D&RGW 472 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1942
D&RGW 473 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1941
D&RGW 474 brakeman's cabin applioed January 1, 1939
D&RGW 475 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1940
D&RGW 476 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1940
D&RGW 477 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1940
D&RGW 478 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1941
D&RGW 479 brakeman's cabin applied January 1, 1940

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Prototype Information / Re: K-28 #474
« on: October 24, 2011, 12:23:03 AM »
Jack:

I am writing a book on the Crested Butte branch for the Colorado RR Museum. I have about 30 photos of 474 as it is my favorite engine and I spent many, many hours with two engineers who ran her from 1923 until she went to Alaska.


1. Cylinder heads, some photos show entire face of the steam chest painted white (silver?), others just the cylinder heads as is the norm. When were they painted all white?

The trim on the engines was silver, not white...only the lettering was white. Photos of 474 in 39 show no silver cylinder heads, it was done during annual service in 1940.

2. Doghouse, some photos show royal gorge/ moffat with doghouse, some without. (As an aside, did any K-28s used on the 3rd division have a doghouse while in royal gorge/moffat paint other than 474?)

474 was one of the first to get the dog house due to being used only in freight service. The only other K-28s used in the late 30s was 472 and 479. 479 was the prime Shavano engine with 472 as backup and occassional use in helper and freight service. I have the exact dates on the dog houses, but the data is not handy....contact me via email.


3. Power reverse, I noticed the switching pilot, but no power reverse, did the requirement for power reverse on switching locomotives apply to the era 474 was used as a switching locomotive?

Power reverses were not applied to any of the K-28s until the 50s.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide. 

 

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New Product Announcements / Re: Blackstone Announcements
« on: October 14, 2011, 07:33:34 PM »
Phil:

I don't think either of us is ranting. It is supposed to be a discussion group and we are discussing in this awkward medium called the web.

We see things differently, different approach to the hobby. Some people like scratch building, some like kit bashing, some like fixiing up old kits or cars as you describe. That is not for me. I am primarily a historian and more of a collector than a builder. I want my models to be accurate, well detailed, painted correctly, etc. Blackstone offers me that and I do not really care where they are made. I was buying brass models made in Japan in the 60s. Japan at that time was still recovering from WWII and things were not so great...i know I lived there for four years.

If I could purchase affordable models with the Blackstone quality made in the USA, I would. But the MMR stuff does not meet my standards.

Jerry Day

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New Product Announcements / Re: Blackstone Announcements
« on: October 14, 2011, 12:06:26 AM »
Phil:

I have heard this kind of talk before. First it was Japan, then Korea, then Singapore. American politicians, and unions have taxed, and entitlemented, and regulated, and benefited American businesses to the point where they went off shore. I worked for a major computer company for more than 15 years and I sat on meetings where we were determing the price and profitability of products like printers, scanners, computers, etc. When the company moved all that manufacturing (and my job) to Asia, I was not happy about it, but I didn't blame the company, I blamed the US government, state governments, and the unions for pricing US manufacturing out of the picture.

To make models with the quality, accuracy, and features that Blackstone offers here in the US would send the price thru the roof. You are willing to settle for less...I am not.

Jerry Day

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New Product Announcements / Re: Blackstone Announcements
« on: October 13, 2011, 09:13:55 PM »
Phil:

Some of us do care about historically correct, accurate models and are willing to pay the price. I don't care where they are made. As far as I know, very few brass models were ever made in the USA.

I don't know how long it will remain so with the current occupant in the White House, but for now, it is still a free country. If you do not want to buy models made in China, then don't buy them. But do not try to stop those of us who do.

Jerry Day
Longmont, CO

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New Product Announcements / Re: Blackstone Announcements
« on: October 13, 2011, 03:02:19 PM »
<<Please explain to me, what other differences can justify the significantly higher cost of BS freight car models?>>

Better research, accurate details, greater detail, accurate lettering, better painting, better trucks...need more?

If you can't see the difference, don't buy them. You can have my share of the others....

Jerry Day


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New Product Announcements / Re: Blackstone Announcements
« on: October 04, 2011, 10:30:24 AM »
A lot of it has to do with economies of scale. I worked as a technical publications and training coordinator at Hewlett-Packard's ScanJet scanner division. When we started making scanners, they cost nearly $2000. You can get one now that is a lot bettter than that one for about $100. Part of it was moving manufacturing to Asia, but part of it comes from the fact that you can buy scanners everywhere now whereas when we started making them in 1989, they were a speciality item.

If there were enough HOn3s, you would probably see Blackstone being sold in Walmart. Don't think that will ever happen. The market for narrow gauge models is also spread between Fn3, On3, Sn3, HOn3 and whatever-n3.

Jerry Day
Longmont, CO

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HOn3 General Discussion Forum / Re: Blackstone Blog post
« on: September 08, 2011, 05:39:59 PM »
<<disappointed that there is no K-36>>

For now that is!

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HOn3 General Discussion Forum / Re: Blackstone Blog post
« on: September 07, 2011, 09:31:15 PM »
<<More, if marketed properly>>
I doubt there are 500 people who would purchase an HON3 diesel. Blackstone would have to sell a heck of lot more than 500 for it to be profitable.

If I were a betting person, I would bet that they never do one.

Jerry Day

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HOn3 General Discussion Forum / Re: Blackstone Blog post
« on: September 06, 2011, 12:26:37 PM »
A center cab diesel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Blackstone has to produce what sells the most. Caboose Hobby Shop alone sold 500 C-19s as soon as they were released.

Do you really think Blackstone would sell 500 diesels total?

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Prototype Information / Second Air Pump for C-16s and C-19s
« on: July 03, 2011, 04:08:08 PM »
DENVER & RIO GRANDE WESTERN RR
December 31, 1924

Office of Chief Mechanical Officer

Cost of applying additional 9-1/2 inch air pump to C-16 and C-19 class engines.--- $321.72 per engine.


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